Free2beme. I guess it would depend on whether a Christian believes everything written in the Bible. According to the gospel accounts of Christs ministry he expelled demon(s) from a possessed man and they entered a herd of swine that then jumped off a cliff. On a side note, we had an elder who said we shouldn't watch the movie "The Ghost and the Darkness" because the lions in the movie were supposedly possessed. If one believes that people can become demon-possessed then I suppose any living creature could be possessed. It boils down to what you personally believe on this matter. Sometimes animals, like people, are just not quite right in the head. -Leslie
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Animals demonized
by free2beme injust wondering, do christians feel animals can be demonized?
i wonder, as i have some questions about demonized.
does the demon become the person, and send the person packing to some sort of waiting room?
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My apologies to everyone on this board (please read).
by Joliette inabout a month ago, i wrote a post about a sister that keeps coming to my apartment giving me watchtowers.
i called her an older sister.
she is in her late 50's.
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lol gone for good. I was thinking something similar. Before my teens people in their thirties were "old". Then when my thirties came along, people in their fifties were "getting up there". Now that I'm 2 1/2 yrs away from the Big 6-0, when I read an obituary where the person died around age 72 or so I think, gee they weren't that old. It's all perspective. Don't sweat the small stuff. Leslie
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New Member...
by sosoconfused inhello everyone, just wanted to say hi and introduce myself.. i am a mid 30's just stepped aside elder, who just couldn't handle it anymore.. i am a 3rd generation born-in and former pioneer and bethelite.
it has been a log somewhat confusing ride for me, but i am finally settling in to realizing that i need to really look at what me and my family are doing.. .
its funny though what really got me here... it wasn't the 40 year old men telling me they were looking at boobies on the computer and hoping not to get in trouble, it wasn't the watching young people bail left and right, it wasn't the ever changing new light etc... but a simple thought.. .
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Warm Welcome sosoconfused. Your journey out of the "lie" will have highs and lows but it eventually gets better. Looking forward to hearing more of your story. -Leslie
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New Member-Active Elder
by Promitheas ini'm a new member & i'd like to say hi to everyone, intoducing myself.. i am a 3rd generation born-in at mid 50's & an active elder.. english is not my mother language, so pls ignore any grammatical errors.
i live in a small country in europe.. i'd like to thank you for all information posted.
some of them have rally helped me to understand and examine again my beliefs.. last new light concerning f&ds=gb has verified the idea that they are popes in the position op pope.. i still believe in god & in his son jesus christ but not in the gb..
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A warm welcome to you Promitheas. Good to have you here and extremely pleased that the new light on the GB got you thinking. Looking forward to hearing more about you when you are able to relate your story. -Leslie
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If there are no more miraculous events, then why do JW's pray for one?
by wha happened? inthis is exactly what i asked my wife.
if the wt has stated over and over, there are no more miraculous events, then why do u pray for one?.
her response?
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@ personal responsibility, Wha. totally agree - Leslie
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Here is the funeral talk outline. VERY discraceful.
by stillstuckcruz inthis is truly terrible.
i just love the statement "instead of eulogizing the deceased, use the material in this outline to give a fine witness concerning the truth.
" in other words, utterly disregard the deceased.
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JW funerals are weird. As a born-in I attended many funerals at the KH over my 48 yrs. in the Borg. I never realized what a "normal" funeral was until a few yrs. after leaving. My mother-in-law passed away a few years ago. The funeral started with a bit of family history, the minister gave a 10 minute scriptural presentation and then family members took turns speaking to relate special times they had with mom. Some related humorous memories and it was a real testimonial to the deceased. No wonder JW funerals sounded the same. I did not realize they used a set outline. I would rather have no funeral than one of those disgusting sales pitches. -Leslie
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New Beginnings
by LouBelle inthis week monday i started my new job.
initially i didn't have much to do and was left alone in an office for 3 days.
i felt very isolated and uncomfortable.
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Congratulations Loubelle. Thinks will pick up and soon you'll be busy. I heard an interesting thing on the radio 2 days ago. They were talking about how it often takes people 2 weeks to get back into routine at work after the x-mas holidays. So I'm sure once everyone has gotten back into the swing of things you'll be just fine being the newbie and all. Ah...the weight challenge. I'm there too. Good luck on all fronts. -Leslie (a Dr. once told me, "you're not overweight, you're just short. If you were 7' tall..."<true story, he was so diplomatic)
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Some fairly alarming medical news in Discovery magazine - Nov. 2010 issue:
by james_woods inexpose article on dangers and misrepresentations of a number of new drugs - some points made:.
1) - according to an agency for healthcare research and quality report in 2001, more than 770,000 americans die each year from drug complications.. 2) - care patients don't need of failing to give care that is necessary accounts for an estimated 30% of the annual health care budget - more than 2.4 trillion dollars per year.. 3) - avandia, the diabetes drug made by glaxosmithkline was subject to 42 studies and a 2007 report by dr. steven nissen which showed it plainly increased chances of heart attack and death.
the u.s. senate committee on finance says the company knew about the cardiac side effects for several years before this report was published.. 4) - in 2002 jama published results of a huge study, called the antihypertensive and lipid-lowering treatment to prevent heart attack, or allhat, which showed that inexpensive generic drugs such as diuretics were just as effective as name brand drugs for controlling blood pressure.
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Back in the 70's I worked at a medical clinic and regularly the drug company reps would schedule time to meet with a couple of the Dr.s. They came equipped with a huge case of samples and an info sheet telling the Dr. what the drug was for. So the Doc would give the patient a sample of the drug for the noted ailment. Whenever I have a new prescription I always ask the Pharmacist to let me read about the drug in the Compendium of Pharmaceuticals before filling the script. It gives you details that are not on the little blurb that is often put with your prescription as well as details of contraindication. After reading all possible side effects you may decide it just isn't worth the risk.
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Elders finally took me to the back room...
by OneDayillBeFree inafter several months of leaving the meetings as soon as they ended or only staying for "the first meeting" then leaving the "second part", the elders finally cornered me at last night's meeting.. they said they were concerned about me and that being that i am a young brother in a recently divided congregation they saw so much potential in me to help out the congregation and become a ms.. i told them i was thankful for their thinking of me to help the congregation but that at the moment i could not due to my job.
then the began asking personal questions that got on my nerves.. they asked where i worked and how much i made.
they asked if i was going to college and what i was studying and for how long.
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They sure have a lot of gall. The answers to those questions were none of their business. The nerve to ask how much money you make. That totally blows me away. -Leslie
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CyberJesus, hope the funeral went ok
by nuthouse escapee injust to let you know that you are being thought about today and hoping that the funeral for your grandpa went ok. .
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Just to let you know that you are being thought about today and hoping that the funeral for your Grandpa went ok. Leslie